Demise: Rise of the Ku'tan: File corruptions after defragging

File corruptions after defragging

Guran
posted 04-28-2001 08:35 AM
Error 28 - overstack! 2 corrupted files; I could not even get past the loading screen. My only solution was to delete and reinstall the game; then restored my game! The manual says that we should be able to do a restore if we have file corruption, so there must be another way than delete and reinstall. Anyone knows what it is ?

GRAND_QUEST_MASTER
posted 04-28-2001 01:18 PM
Did you have it backed up (backup folder) before the defragmentation? if so you may restore it with that. If not, just copy your character, guildspell, store, and companions file in the system dir and reinstall witht those files as your backup. Others may have better ways to help but I think you might end up using this...

Argon
posted 04-28-2001 03:35 PM
I just recived Errors for the first time myself. I did a defreag about a week ago started getting more lock ups in the dungeon never put the 2 together. Now I cant get past the log on page I get run-time error 28 something about stack space. What do I do. I haven't backed up recently and Have already lost my main characters oncew due to a reformmatting "incedent" Which file do I need to back up and can I do it if I can't boot the game. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Guran
posted 04-28-2001 05:54 PM
I simpathize with you Argon, this is exactly what happened to me yesterday. Fortunately I had a recent backup (just before I decided to defrag my harddisk) so I just re-installed the game. But there MUST be another way!

Arbarbonif
posted 04-30-2001 08:56 AM
That's interesting, I have the reverse problem. I start slowing accumulating more crashes and errors, until I defrag. Then the problems go away for about 1-2 weeks. Go figure...

Dogg of Demise
posted 04-30-2001 01:06 PM
That's the way it works for me. If I don't defrag at least once a month Demise makes a mess of my hard drive.

Varzil
posted 04-30-2001 03:28 PM
I defrag every day at 3am.

Argon
posted 04-30-2001 04:04 PM
I'll be honest defrag I think is just a wild card coincedence. This game is great but we all no it can get as flighty as a blond with 3 drinks. I re installed today and in the process had some items change to tretises i needed. Considering my computer has clamied 2 seperate sets of characters in reinstall previously I took advantage of the system. I think it was good carma comming back to thank me for dealing with all this BS to play a great game. -----Demise can't live with it can't live without it.

Frostbite
posted 05-14-2001 10:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Argon: I'll be honest defrag I think is just a wild card coincedence.
I disagree. When my HD's fragmentation level goes over 20%, demise and other games which use lot of swap space start to have problems. In demise this shows up as occasional dump to windows. After I use Defrag, no problems until fragmentation goes up to certain point. I will test this, and report back if I find that defrag has no effect. Will use NT4 to fragment my drive

NT is EXTREMELY good at that... Btw, I've also noticed that having your pagefile/swapfile in one piece helps a lot. This can be done by moving it temporarily to other drive, defragment system drive and moving pagefile back...

rosefix
posted 05-15-2001 01:03 AM
Setting the Swapfile to a fixed size prevents its fragmentation and also makes the use of swap memory faster as windows don't have to dynamic increase or decrease the swapfile size, so just setting min and max size the same would skip some swap problems. If possible the swapfile should be on other drive than the system folder.

Frostbite
posted 05-15-2001 02:05 AM
If you can lock Win2k's swap file for good, pleeeease tell me how? I've tried that since I got W2k. I can't lock the minimum size of Virtual memory, W2k always changes it, no matter what I do. The maximum size seems to be working in the limits i've set it, roughly... This causes problems because every time W2k is running with less virtual memory than the maximum i've set. At first I'm using software that takes all the virtual memory it can use and then close program and switch to one which is less needy about the Virtual memory. (At this point W2k re-sets the swap file downwards). When I write to disk during this time, it's good possibility that the data is written to disk area that i wished the swap file would be. Then when W2k needs more virtual memory, it no longer has the same area available as before and the swap file is split to atleast 2 parts, usually more...? huh....

Varzil
posted 05-15-2001 09:37 AM
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q259/1/51.ASP
Our webmaster did the first one and it drove him nuts until he asked me to look at it. The second one sounds more like your problem, but read both of them to see if they can help.
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q242/4/47.ASP
They explain a few things that could cause this.

Pitt
posted 05-15-2001 11:17 AM
Windows fragmentation due to a swap file can be very irritating reguardless of the game. A friend of mine, who worked tech support for Microsoft, strongly suggested making a seperate partition for the swap file. In my case, I made a 700 mb partition strictly for the swap file. For me, this significantly dropped the fragmentation caused by programs that used the swap file.

With the size of hard drives now a days, a partition like this is simply a drop in the bucket. Some people would disagree with this method because it limits your swap file size, but with memory prices, if one uses over 700 mb... maybe one should purchase more memory?

rosefix
posted 05-16-2001 02:43 PM
To set the swapfile to a fixed size just go to Control Panel/Sytem/Advanced/Performance and choose a drive (best option is a partition on a physical drive other than the one that contains the system folder) and set the maximum and minimum swapfile sizes the same (in my case

Frostbite
posted 05-17-2001 02:06 AM
rosefix: yup, that's how it works in 98/NT but not in Win2000, you cannot set the minimum value, at least it isn't so easy since I haven't managed to find where?...

rosefix
posted 05-17-2001 07:11 AM
For my Win2000 Professional it works exactly the way I described, just tried it again and it works. For every drive you choose there should be 2 entry fields each for something like starting size and maximum size and i can set both to 768MB and they remain so, after restart the swap file is set to 768MB.

Varzil
posted 05-17-2001 10:09 AM
If you still can't get it to keep your settings correctly, try this tip from JSI http://www.jsiinc.com/subf/tip2700/rh2733.htm Just do this to your current control set and to any other control sets that you have. It should only need the current one, but hey I prefer to make sure.

Frostbite
posted 05-17-2001 10:17 PM
hehe, problems still persist, no matter what I do. Initial size of my page file is 384, max is 384, but minimum allowed still 2 MB and windows does the same things as described in earlier post, hehe i give up...

Windows still reports it correctly tho...(paging file size 384mb - 384mb)

rosefix
posted 05-18-2001 02:19 AM
The minimum allowed size displayed in the options page is only for information, my pagefile remains at 768MB regardless of virtual memory usage. Normally Windows shouldn't alter the size with these settings, have you tried to set the size to something about 512MB ?

Frostbite
posted 05-18-2001 03:07 AM
hiiya!! finally got it to work with those registry alterations!! whoooo! thanx all! (rosefix: yup the minimum allowed is still 2mb but now W2k won't change the initial size! this is great

Varzil
posted 05-18-2001 05:12 AM
Your welcome.

The Prisoner
posted 05-21-2001 09:36 AM
A Note on the Swap File Partition: Make this the last partition on the drive for better performance. And make the partition at least 10% larger than the size of the Swap File you expect to have. I use a fix-size Swap File.